Upcoming changes to this blog: what are your thoughts, fellow polytheists?

This blog has been dormant for a few months – with everything going on, I’ve been unable to properly attend to the topics I’ve wanted to talk about to my satisfaction. Part of this has been due to my exhaustion of behavior on the interwebs where attempts to talk about polytheist practice/belief/devotion/etc have become “flame wars” where the center of conversation quickly becomes fighting between dissenting parties.

Frankly, I’m sick of it. I want to see discussion again. I want to see discourse. I want to see the Faces of the Powers in everyone’s rich and unique practice, flavors of thought, in everyone’s way of being. I want there to be a polytheist space again where things can flower. I want to lessen reactive discussion, whereΒ a wonderful topic is drowned by a war in the comments section. I want for intra-community dialogue, sharing, constructive criticism to happen. I want to see growth of our vibrant, diverse, powerful community together – that our differences are our strengths, not our weaknesses or our points of contention.

We can be better. Our Powers deserve better.

So this is something I want to do, and I would love your thoughts on this.

I want to continue posting my theological thoughts on here (as well as reposting other wonderful articles). However, the change to this blog involves something MUCH more public. I want to open each and every single article with the intent to actually foster discussion – to actively seek out replies and work on developing healthy discussion of contemporary polytheisms.

I want this place to be a place of safe polytheist space – by, for, with polytheists. I want this place to be where thoughts can be exchanged, discourse can happen, where people get the food to write on THEIR blogs to further discussion (and/or to understand their own practice and Powers better!).

I want there to be polytheist conversations, to share and to explore how we engage with our Powers and to talk philosophy and theology. We are as different as our Gods – that should be celebrated and explored on a space that can be held.

I think it’s sorely needed – what do you think?

And if you think it is needed: What can we be doing now with and for our Powers? What should we be talking about? What topics, what practices? What should we do, short of deepening our practices and continuing to do our Work? How can we all move forward together in our differences to where it matters: the Powers? How can we all learn more about each other and support each other? And what else would you like to ask or bring to my attention, in order to make this happen?



Author: L.V. Boloix

Polytheist. Seer. Witch. Academic. Writer. Freelancer.

13 thoughts on “Upcoming changes to this blog: what are your thoughts, fellow polytheists?”

  1. Reblogged this on The Sovereign of Swords and commented:

    If you’re a polytheist (in my personal definition, someone who understands to be separate and distinct Entities with free will and autonomy over Themselves/high agency), and you’re sick of all of the arguing that lately has muted polytheist conversation, and you’re of a mind to change for the better, I ask that you please read this and give it some thought. Reblog and share if you think it’s useful! Thank you!

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  2. Negativity always gets more airtime. Always. We, as a community, reward negativity by giving it traffic. We can’t help but rubberneck and watch the train wreck. If the only response to attempts at de-legitimizing people with differing opinions was to simply ignore the one attempting the de-legitimizing, we’d see that kind of behavior fairly quickly extinguished. I see certain personalities who are completely addicted to attacking community figures — and it’s why they are famous, in part.

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    1. “If the only response to attempts at de-legitimizing people with differing opinions was to simply ignore the one attempting the de-legitimizing, we’d see that kind of behavior fairly quickly extinguished.” I think this is certainly the case. Showing them the door immediately. And it’s also good to respond to de-legitimizing behavior by promoting legitimizing behavior within the community – a reminder that outsider commentary, while important, does not and should not dictate what one does with their practice or how one engages with the members of their community.

      I’m just tired of all of this, and I want to see what I can do. Maybe updating this blog in the way that I mentioned is a good idea. Maybe it’s a terrible idea and other approaches should be considered. Maybe communal commentary should not be pursued and we should just stick to individual voices. I have no idea, which is why I want to see what y’all think. Perhaps there are some things to consider first, or things that should be ruled out first before anything goes on. So far I LOVE the #mypolytheism thing going around, and I hope it gains traction! I’m not saying that it’s something immediate, either, or easy. We certainly have a lot to do. But I want to start doing it. And I’m not exactly sure how to do it, or how to help bring it about, other than on an individual basis.

      “Negativity always gets more airtime.” True. I know that positivity and healthy, balanced commentary deserves much more airtime. We may want it but, at the end of the day, many of us feed the flame we’re furious at. But we have to change that if we want to see anything glorious and good happen.

      Thank you for your comment. πŸ™‚

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  3. There will always be those that just have to throw a lit cracker into the haystack… I love having well discussed debates and try hard to ignore those that are only here to argue that ‘you are wrong and they are right’ ad hominem that is spewed over and over again. Although I do admit to having fed some of these arguers and usually getting wrathful expletives thrown my way.

    Please do what you feel is right as I will continue to follow, read, let it sink in and most likely then forget to comment my acknowledgement of the post.

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    1. Thank you for your comment! Well-discussed debates are very much the necessity. I’m so, so tired with the ad-hominem “arguments” that come up as well. And I was much the same way, still something I’m working on – turning off the “feed the fire” is still very much in process. But I KNOW we can do it. I KNOW we can be better!

      LOL! It’s okay! As long as you read it and you take away something good and constructive from it. That’s what it’s there for! Like Jo says below: building up and support! Most important!

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  4. Reblogged this on A Spiritual Rebirth Journey and commented:
    There will always be those that just have to throw a lit cracker into the haystack… I love having well discussed debates and try hard to ignore those that are only here to argue that ‘you are wrong and they are right’ ad hominem that is spewed over and over again. Although I do admit to having fed some of these arguers and usually getting wrathful expletives thrown my way.

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  5. Build up and ignore those who want to tear down. I know that shunning those we don’t agree with isn’t satisfying — and I would say that shunning those we simply disagree with isn’t all that useful. We get to decide who we interact with and how, to an extent, so it’s everyone’s own choice how they want to interact with those they disagree with. For myself, finding common ground, even if that common ground is kindness, is hospitality rather than having to see a same-ness, is where I’m focusing. I’ve ceased exposing myself to those who tear down, a while ago, and it’s been extremely helpful. But then, I’ve always been one who loves watching so-called trainwrecks devolve. It’s been work to get myself to let go of that.

    Build up. Support. Embrace diversity, and challenge the would-be gatekeepers by being present and vocal when and how we can. That’s my aim, at any rate.

    Hooray for great minds thinking alike πŸ˜‰

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    1. I wish WordPress had a ‘love’ button, because I love EVERYTHING about this comment. This is *exactly* what and how I think. Great minds thinking alike, no kiddin’!

      Yep — I think that we thought before that directly opposing / engaging in attack would actually work. It hasn’t, and it’s only hurt us. I really agree with you in that we should begin ignoring those who tear down – and instead drown out those voices with our own. It’s going to be a slippery slope in many cases, but I think that there is (for the most part) a *huge* difference between genuinely asking a difficult/controversial/touchy question in order to build up and entering the conversation with intent to tear it down. I’m certainly very open to all perspectives, but if someone begins to antagonize in polytheist space, whether they are polytheist or not, I think we should begin to cultivate a response of “do not engage.” We should be able to state ideas clearly, but we should also not let our conversations be overshadowed by those who cannot engage correctly and/or refuse to engage correctly.

      The way I see it, I don’t understand all this bickering because we all love our Powers. We all share common ground in that, I think. Sure, there’s going to be controversial issues. Difficult issues. Issues that strike deeply and can really open up bloody, ugly spaces. But I think we as a community need to begin orienting ourselves in engaging in conversation fruitfully – in discussing, not fighting, not approaching posts in anticipation of the next great battle.

      “Build up. Support. Embrace diversity, and challenge the would-be gatekeepers by being present and vocal when and how we can.”


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  6. One thing I have noticed as a “free-agent” (meaning I don’t belong to any group) is that a lot of the fighting is between groups based on personality conflicts a couple of the members may have had or that groups separate on bad terms. Also a lot of groups like to “own the gods” so if there is a devotional project for a deity, they will not participate because of wanting the group they are in to be the one who patented the deity. I find it hard to engage with groups but a lot easier to engage with individuals. I think it’s hard to remember that it’s about the gods, not your group. Where is your focus?

    I noticed that when I find a writer who is pretty interesting often they want to teach me the truth as opposed to be equals and also listen. I’ve learned the most from conversations with other polytheists and actually even more from the gods but I don’t like debating because that implies somebody is wrong. Working as a spirit worker with a lot of UPG that Freya will give me historical back up on once I’ve made it public out of trust to her , she has explained over and over again that UPG can all be true because there are so many different paganisms and so many different pantheons even just within Germanic polytheism. Different times, different tribes, different bioregions, there is no such thing as a Scandinavian pantheon and a way to practice that was uniform. There was no Sunday school .

    That’s one reason it’s hard for me to be with polytheists who are trying to find the absolute truth of the religion in the past as opposed to listening to the varieties that linguistics, archaeology and DNA migrations have recently put together . It matches so much UPG from the past that I’m always interested in what people are learning and it’s hard to find people excited to have conversations sharing a bunch of information with each other. Where we are supportive in what we all are learning as the little t truth.

    The problems you mention for the polytheist groups (I can’t say the word community) are the same ones in Wicca, Christianity, Islam, and it seems to just be a human trait. I remember being with a couple of Druids talking about some emotionally reactive event with the grove and one of them said ” people are acting like Wiccans! We should be better than that.” But we are humans in a postmodern world where we have very little in common including what we mean with language so it’s much different than when everyone was polytheist . Back then I’m sure a lot of people were just like Christians to go to church on Easter and Christmas but don’t think about theology , just have a vague understanding of cosmology and what a good person should be that would vary farmhouse to farmhouse.

    For people who are doing Celtic or Germanic polytheism looking to the past for clues hoping to find some organized religion like Rome had or Egypt isn’t going to happen, just like the average Roman or Egyptian really didn’t know much about the religion themselves . But when you have urban centralized governments it’s easier to have a state priesthood. If that was the religion for farmers far from the city, I probably would say no. Plus all of the slaves – what was their understanding? The polytheist times are filled of slavery.

    Polytheism comes with a lot of homework usually and it would be great if people could exchange articles and discuss them without fear of having someone tear them apart a human being. That’s the thing – people and studies have shown that they will stop saying hurtful things they can see the person’s reaction but the Internet removes that so people can be far more vicious than they ever would normally.

    And unfortunately I know of people who go online when they’re angry because it’s a safe outlet because they are anonymous. That’s why contacting me taste a little bit of work because I don’t want to be the target of drive by commenting. You know, where person just shoots everything and then is gone. I use my legal name, I want to know the other person’s legal name and to address each other as people with respect. The way that the Internet is set up just isn’t conducive to that. Just remembering that it’s another human being that you don’t know who doesn’t come from your worldview or context – they’re just strangers – and having to start with the very basics of who you are , how you communicate, what your general understandings are because you cannot assume anything online for me makes it harder unless it’s one-on-one. Just getting used to how somebody communicates information takes time. It might seem offensive to someone but not someone else. These kind of things lead to a lot of misunderstandings and fights so I find the Internet is good for sending factual information but isn’t very good with communication because everybody has different communication styles and just getting beyond that into a topic can cause fighting.

    Plus a lot of people just take out their anger and frustration about their life on strangers online and that’s unfortunately a reality.

    And just like Christians we have so many denominations it would be very hard to get a group of Christians from so many denominations with very strong faith to be able to put aside their very strong faith and listen to somebody else who has very strong faith in something that you find appalling. It would be like having Quakers, Southern Baptist, Greek orthodox, fundamentalists, African evangelists, Church of England and Catholics all coming together to discuss Christianity. That lead to a lot of people being burned on the stake to purify them before they went to heaven. Save their souls. And that was just with Christians.

    So I think it has to be more focused like a debate group or a mysticism group or a sharing scholarly resources group or a how do you practice group and have rules about safe space. Obviously how you practice and mysticism are not things anyone can argue with you about. That’s like arguing with how you go to the bathroom or what a dream means. Sharing scholarly resources there is no value judgment. Discussing them with the focus just on the actual resource being discussed could be really great if people kept on topic and went in with the attitude of ” I can learn from other people and those I don’t agree with I can not think about those comments and instead focus on the ones that are interesting to me. I will put my energy into what feeds me as a polytheist as opposed to what brings me down , so let’s listen nonjudgmentally to what other people are saying .”

    Anything that is debate I would never around because it really teaches the black-and-white mentality that prevents collaboration and creates us versus them. I really love collaborating with other polytheists and that gets stopped the minute someone says “you are wrong.” Especially devotional polytheists where this is our entire lives .

    All of the different kinds of polytheism are probably supposed to be here. So humans arguing about what one to be is like saying the gods don’t know what they’re doing. In my opinion. So if somehow polytheists were not like every other human beings in the world and able to understand that we need a really wide diversity practices and beliefs just like every religion because human beings are all very different with different gifts and different needs then it would be wonderful.

    Unfortunately listening isn’t really a trait that is encouraged. Debate club teaches people not to listen, to just keep arguing their side – a side that was randomly chosen by the teacher. When the goal is to win , which I see with a lot of the online fights , as opposed to explore the truth, learn what others are doing, be inspired, some of it I won’t connect to some of it I will, some is intriguing but it’s not really my thing , etc. there’s no point in trying. So people have to ask themselves ” am I here to win? Or am I here to learn with others?”

    Unfortunately people seem to be really into being teachers right now who want followers who believe exactly what they tell them to believe it’s hard to find polytheist peers, genuinely curious about what each other does.

    I agree with you and I wish that I thought there could be an open to everyone forum that works online but I don’t. Having a moderated group with the guidelines made very clear before anyone joins would be probably closer to getting to that goal. For me my religion is so personal that it makes me very vulnerable and I need to be in a safe space where I feel free to discuss things without sharing someone’s going to shoot me down. Especially someone anonymous who could have their own agenda that I don’t know about because I don’t know who they are.

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    1. Hi, Heather, and thank you for your wonderful comment!

      Yep, I agree with you in that I think that many of the “flame-wars” and violent disagreements are at *least* partially fueled by personal disagreements. As human beings I think it’s simply an ongoing effort to center oneself and to remind oneself that, as you say, it’s about the Gods and not “winning” or having the right answer. To answer your question of “Where is your focus?” — I want to say that the focus is on the Gods, because that’s completely true. I do understand that what I am asking for involves other polytheists sharing their thoughts, collaborating, and discussing in a healthy and measured manner, so in a sense this is a (I think) necessary resource for polytheists and I am ready and willing to listen to all suggestions because I don’t have all of the answers. There *is* a human element to this which is really important. But behind every intent and action, my focus is the Gods – learning more about Them, how to engage with Them, Their nature(s) and Masks(s), what it means to be Theirs, etc etc.

      “It’s hard to find people excited to have conversations sharing a bunch of information with each other. Where we are supportive in what we all are learning as the little truth.” True! So true! I hope that this can be the backbone of what I’d like this blog to be for. From what I understand from your answer, you seem to be suggesting that debate may not be a good idea (at least for now)? Or in other words hosting a situation that some may not be ready for yet due to past behavior? Please let me know if I’m misunderstanding. I want to make sure I’m understanding you correctly.

      I *am* understanding your suggestions of making it a more focused group (mysticism group, how do you practice group, etc) and having strong guidelines about safe space and moderation. I agree with you on this as well. I was thinking that perhaps creating a forum would be a good idea? I think forums have several spaces for different topics and threads can be fruitful (threads on theological topics, practice topics, offering topics, etc).

      Regarding moderation/protection, perhaps I can see what options there are for commenting/registration. I want this to be accessible but the safe space is really, really important. I’m mulling over the pros and cons of, say, requiring request to join that requires accepting the guidelines of the forum to comment, and to be monitoring for negative behavior. (This would depend on how the forum works, though, and what permissions I can and cannot have as admin of this WordPress domain). Do you have any thoughts or suggestions on this you’d like to share?

      (For anyone reading, I’ll be fielding suggestions here in the comments as I am doing now; I will then publish a post here with more focused ideas based on what is discussed in the comments and field on that).

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      1. Hi, I think all of that sounds really great! I don’t know about the different forums right now but I know that there are Yahoo! Groups and also I think Google has them as well. To join the people just would have to agree to the guidelines and there can be two different moderators I think or more who make sure that the guidelines are being followed. And they would have access to the passwords.

        My own problems with the word debate comes from the idea of “debate clubs” which teach people to argue to win , but they don’t even believe in what they are debating – it was just assigned to them . At that kind of “education” – argue a topic that you don’t believe in just so you win – is the opposite of ” listen to what you are feeling and thinking as you listen to the other people , think out your responses based on your own experiences and knowledge and being engaged with the other people , even if you don’t agree , consider what they’re saying and ask questions because you might not know what they mean because language is tricky. Also you might understand it three days later in a different way. So don’t do anything down because you – if you are lucky – are going to keep growing and changing your opinions and finding out that you are wrong and being really happy that you are continuing to learn . Nobody has a monopoly on truth . Enjoy other people’s stories , question their sources if it is intellectual research , and when there is disagreement don’t make it about either/or, because it is both/and. There is probably truth in most things people believe , when there are hard facts then those are okay to stay like ancient Egyptians did not speak English , that’s a fact , but most of what we know from the past goes through a lot of filters of people writing about it with their own biases and their own time version of history which keeps changing. So there really aren’t that many facts. Debating opinions doesn’t have any logical purpose. If you don’t agree , engage with somebody who you are learning from, somebody who is asking you questions – questions not to badger you like they don’t believe you , questions that are sincerely because of interest. Put your energy where you are learning the most. Put your energy where it’s going to be constructed as opposed to “my opinion is right.” Because we can’t prove any of those things. There’s just no way. So I think if people can remember “go where the energy is that elevates you with knowledge ” then you can have discussions as opposed to debates. Discussions can be 10 different people with 10 different places views sharing them – debate is two sides , somebody loses , and that person for that group of people end up hating the other people because debating just doesn’t work as respectful. For example I cannot have anything to do with the Aesir. It’s part of what Freya demands. And I have problems with Odin on a very personal level that doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not he is worthy of worship . It’s just my own relationship with him – if I talk about that I don’t want people who worship Odin to feel like I am being disrespectful of their god or their own experiences. I understand why so many people don’t take Vanatru seriously , they haven’t done the scholarly research , the Vanir are very neglected in Heathenry for a lot of different reasons . I would be happy to explain the source material and also the peer collaboration from people who have never met, and that it is modern – just like all of the other religions right now. Then the person has the facts about what it is and there isn’t anything to debate. All of these religions whether or not they are reconstructed are mostly our own modern recreation because we just don’t know so much and we don’t live in those cultures.

        There would have to be something about not slamming other people’s gods. Because some people might attack somebody who is sworn to Loki or Surt, for example because their understanding is very different than the other persons. It’s really painful when somebody says your God isn’t real or is evil. A lot of polytheist get that from monotheists – I don’t want that to be in polytheist space. So that’s something tricky. Like when people write about the Brythonic Godz – sometimes they will say demigod , fairy, God, human culture hero – trying to organize a pantheons based on a bunch of medieval court stories where nobody is a God . That kind of Cartesian thinking, label everything, has problems when somebody really believes the labels they read or come across themselves and somebody else is worshiping a God and the other person with the different label tells them “no, that is a culture hero.”

        These are things I’ve watched and experienced over 32 years and it is devastating. That’s why there are so many different little groups and traditions because if you are different you become “them” instead of “us” so easily and then you have to leave the community that you thought was yours and start a whole different thing. Because so many people are working with UPG because after you’ve done years of scholarly work that seems to be what the Godz want – connection here and now . But that’s my own experience and the experience of my community.

        I actually am not trying to be negative – cause this is something I would really love to have happen I am trying to troubleshoot. Just thinking about a lot of situations I’ve seen and how hurt people have been. By identifying those it’s a lot easier to create something better than those discussions . So it’s actually because I care and I really want the place for this. As a polytheist I’m really interested in what others are doing and also experiencing from the gods. We are not a large community . If I didn’t care I wouldn’t be thinking of what I’ve seen gone wrong. Because why invent a wheel that doesn’t work? Naturally I am a problem solver but first I have to think about what the problems are and not let those past “bad” experiences cannot be “good” experiences in giving me some wisdom about ” that didn’t work, why? How do we avoid it from ruining things again? ”

        I just wanted you to know that because sometimes when I have a lot of experience with something going wrong that I actually care about people might think that I’m being a wet blanket – I just don’t want to lose the wisdom from my experiences and that of other people.

        I am trained in group facilitation a lot , and one thing that is really helpful when starting a group I’ve noticed is asking people “what do you hope to get from the group? What are you afraid of about the group? What guidelines do we want? How do we want to maintain them?” Those four questions seem to put people at ease. It also gives a sense of ownership and being a real participant . So maybe when there are whatever is “enough people” asking those kinds of questions will help create what the group is about organically ? Out of the people involved .

        Because then everybody is more on the same page and having the “history” of how the group came together public for new members allows them to participate in a productive way faster. Plus because people change on members come and go those questions can be put out again at different times , especially with the way that group dynamics go , there’s always the cautious getting to know each other curiosity phase, and the passionate enjoyment of phase, then there’s always conflict is inevitable, any kind of group or community depends on how conflict is handled because it can actually bring people together and be very transformative, it doesn’t have to mean separation, it means growth and how the group handles growing with all of the conflict that’s natural sets up the new phase – maturity. Things are more stable.

        I’m thinking just long-term because we really do need something like this . My problem-solving stuff to bring it down, it’s to prevent things falling apart. Just like there are times when I joined groups and the people are so insular and know themselves so well and they have a real focus but it’s not anywhere in the description of the group and so I don’t know the elephants in the room that I’m not supposed to mention , who really is the person in charge even though someone else has the title, that what the description of the group said it doesn’t match what they are anymore but they don’t have to think about the guidelines since they’ve been through so much already – and then a newcomer like me doesn’t know what the procedures, topics or the behaviors are that are acceptable and unacceptable.

        I think the collective wisdom of people who have been in groups sharing what has been a bad experience and what was a good experience, that could be a great resource at the beginning about what is the group about? How are we going to do things? Because by doing that there’s a lot of wisdom of what we’ve all experienced and it can create the group like I said organically . Like maybe you don’t have to figure it all out yourself now , you can have a basic vision that others contribute to , but there’s no reason for you to have to shoulder the burden of how to make it work alone. If people are collectively involved then there’s more feeling of belonging.

        I like the idea of different threads and having probably different guidelines somewhat depending on what it is . Like if it’s historical information , that is more of a ” something new came out and said that was wrong .” (However something will be published that says that was wrong LOL – history is fascinating just because the historians keep looking at things differently based on their own culture .)

        Meanwhile something for spirit workers sharing UPG is more of a ” if you don’t agree just ignore it, nobody has a truth patent. ”

        I’m really happy that somebody is talking about “what about the gods and goddesses?” Because that seems to be lost lately. And it’s hard when people, well, here’s a good example : I am communal green anarchist and very involved with the importance of ecology and also because I am disabled aware invisible privilege . My own privilege and the privileges I do not have which are barriers of access. I do a lot of work long distance with people in prison for free . Because of this when there was the ” are you the right kind of political about your polytheism? what politics are involved with your paganism? Here are the ones that should have. ” By an anarchist/Marxist suddenly people assumed that I was part of a collective that as an activist I don’t find effective and don’t really have much in common with – that’s not a big deal because everybody has their own thing , but it affected me with people just assuming I must be “one of them.” Suddenly I couldn’t communicate with people who have different labels for their politics. I don’t care about the labels – I care about what a person is like. You might say that you are a conservative Republican , but that doesn’t tell me anything about your involvement with your community or your reasons or your values or anything – we are people so we have a lot in common right there.

        But because of all of that stuff that went down I suddenly was having to tell people that I’m not a member of the collective – it was really stupid. Just like because I use the word Heathen because that’s what I would’ve been called , people will assume I am racist. All of these labels get in the way so much. Because Raven Kaldera and I are friends – we both have really severe chronic illnesses and he’s really nice to me – somehow I am part of Caudron farm ? And I am involved with everything that ravens part of – which I’m not. Just like I’m not involved with everything anyone I know is doing. But when people find out that I’m friends with Raven all of these assumptions are made. These are reasons why it’s so hard to be a “free-agent” who is interested in discussing things with almost anyone. There are so many little categories people just label that we don’t see the person anymore.

        If I were to only be around people like me – I will be so bored πŸ™‚ I really value diversity of experience and understanding of things but it doesn’t mean I don’t necessarily take them as my own. I really would like to find some sort of polytheist community that just has that attitude. Respectful curiosity between equals , nobody arguing trying to convert people to their personal path. I just want to learn and share .

        I know that this is long sorry . I’m just actually really hopeful. I don’t expect you to do anything with these suggestions ! It’s just my own experience and knowledge about pagan groups. Where it is harder online because in person you can see body language and tone , but also there’s just in a group in person times when everybody laughs for you make some small talk with different people and get a feeling about who they are which makes communicating a lot easier.

        I haven’t figured out how to make something online safe space. Especially because people don’t use their real names there’s no real accountability. But I understand why a lot of people can’t use their real name and it sad that we can’t.


  7. I do not worship several deities, I worship Father and Mother. I know many have specific Matron and Patron dieties with names from ancient pantheons, I generally stick to Father and Mother or God and Goddess though. However, I am open to working with archetypes or the energies of other gods and goddesses with the blessing of Father and Mother. One of the primary things I do to strengthen the bond with my “Powers” is to occassionally sit at my altar for a time of gratitude. I thank Them for the blessings that have been bestowed to me, my loved ones, and the rest of the world.


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